Sunday, August 24, 2008

It's Biden


It's Biden

Personally I would have preferred Obama pick Hillary, but ultimately Joe Biden brings some good experience to the ticket in foreign affairs. His plan to end the Iraq war was the most realistic and detailed position among the candidates in the Democratic race. With the exception of Hillary, he was the best choice among the front runners speculated in the media.
-Darryl







The Text message from the Obama camp:

Darryl --

I have some important news that I want to make official.

I've chosen Joe Biden to be my running mate.

Joe and I will appear for the first time as running mates this afternoon in Springfield, Illinois -- the same place this campaign began more than 19 months ago.

I'm excited about hitting the campaign trail with Joe, but the two of us can't do this alone. We need your help to keep building this movement for change.

Please let Joe know that you're glad he's part of our team. Share your personal welcome note and we'll make sure he gets it:

http://my.barackobama.com/welcomejoe

Thanks for your support,

Barack


P.S. -- Make sure to turn on your TV at 2:00 p.m. Central Time to join us or watch online at http://www.BarackObama.com.

3 comments:

Miles Lunn said...

I think Biden was chosen mainly because he compensates for all the areas Obama is weak on. The idea of a presidential ticket is to ensure that the other one compensates for the other's weakness and Obama and Biden compliment each other well. Biden is strong on foreign policy so he helps take away the argument that Obama is weak on foreign policy which the McCain people will use. Also he comes from a working class background so he can help appeal to the white blue collar workers that Obama has struggled with. This group is key to picking up battleground states such as Ohio and holding ones like Michigan and Pennsylvania. Hilary Clinton would have also been a good choice. Hopefully this along with the convention can give Obama a nice bounce in the polls.

dougf said...

"Conventional wisdom says that Biden is going to be the VP. The more I think about it, the more I am going to throw my money on a surprise with Hillary Clinton. Selecting someone else really doesn't make much sense and quite possibly could cost him the White House in 10 weeks."

True then. Truer now.

The problem with 'true believers' is that ALL reality is filtered through the prism of 'faith'. With the obvious results. Therefore something that was foreseen as abysmal and railed against as disastrous before the fact, is now rationalized as being pretty darn good now that it is reality.

---- "Personally I would have preferred Obama pick Hillary, but ultimately Joe Biden brings some good experience to the ticket in foreign affairs. His plan to end the Iraq war was the most realistic and detailed position among the candidates in the Democratic race. With the exception of Hillary, he was the best choice...",. ---

Umm, no he wasn't. He was a complete TOOL a few short days ago and he remains a complete TOOL today. He does not have Foreign Policy Creds. He has Foreign Policy Length Of Service In The SENATE. Not the same thing at all.

As for his 'plan' for Iraq I hope you were just goofing around when you wrote that part. Now I grant you that his was the 'most detailed' amongst the Dems, but golly gee whizzes. Surely we can set the bar higher than that, can we not ? His plan for Iraq was largely famous for bringing ALL segments of that country's society together at a time when they were busily engaged in killing each other off in great numbers. Now that might be considered a 'good' thing but as everywhere, context is all.

"The surge isn't going to work either tactically or strategically,” Biden told the Boston Globe last summer.
Biden advocated dividing up the country into three parts based on ethnicity, something McCain strongly disagreed with.

And the Iraqi Opinion of Mr.'I Know It All, And You're Not Nearly As Smart As I Am'(Google required)---- “Attempts to partition or divide Iraq by intimidation, force or other means into three separate states would produce extraordinary suffering and bloodshed,”.

Biden is loquacious, pushy, and completely egotistical. The confusion of these adjective with others such as perceptive or insightful or even 'studied', is a very serious intellectual error.

I blame your Obama 'problem' for the shallowness of this effort. Better for Obama if fewer people defended his juvenile actions, and more people told the emperor he was wandering around au naturel.

I leave it to Mickey Kaus to have the final word here--- "Only Chuck Hagel (his chief competitor as Sunday morning gasbag) could make him look wise. ....

You go Mickey. You go.

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Cranky or Just A Crank said...

As I predicted on Friday, Joe Biden is the running mate.

I think that Mike Gravel and Denis Kusinich may have been worse choices from among the vanquished from the Democratic primaries, but at least they garnered more votes than Joe before they dropped out.

Joe Biden is not all that bright and doesn't have a clue about when to shut up, comes from a state that has the minimum number of electoral votes permitted under the Constitution, consistently spoke ill of BHO throughout the primaries, never has had a grown-up job except for politician and is a major league asshole to boot.

http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/weblogs/afb/archives/026777.html

I am not sure on the Ohio/Pa. bounce or edge that Joe is supposed to bring. Although he was born in Scranton he lived in Delaware since he was 10, graduated law school in 1968 and went into the Senate following election in November 1972. He can't even pull the John Edwards son of a workin' man routine since his father was a car salesman - not exactly a blue-collar, lunch-bucket type of a job.

How does adding the fifth longest serving member of the Senate - elected at the time of Richard Nixon's landlide re-election - work on the BHO theme of change or a new kind of politics that he has been pushing since he started. A cranky old white career politican from a small state doesn't sound like change to me. I guess Robert Byrd was busy.

Let's not forget how pissed off the Hillamaniacs are right now. Not only do they (wrongly) have a bug up their collective asses about how she was robbed of the nomination (she blew it on her own) but they think that she has been shown the back of BHO's hand by not even being considered for the number two job. On this point I am just parrotting CNN and the other talking heads that HRC was never vetted as a running mate and thereby never really in the running. These people might not jump ship completely and vote for McCain, but this is probably a sizable number of active participants whose organizationa and get out the vote assistance might make a difference in an election that all of the polls have within the margin of error.

Unless McCain picks Dick Cheney to continue on as VP or someone equally unpalatable, which isn't a safe bet, even if he picks Romney who said all sorts of nasty things about McCain, a la Joe B. speaking of BHO during the primaries, the battle of running mates will go to the Republicans by default because Joe is just such a bad pick.